Vaper’s Tongue or Vaper’s Fatigue?

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Let us be frank and talk about “vapor’s tongue.”

First and foremost, let me rant for just a moment. *Grabs a soapbox and takes a long vape of Butterscotch.* We, the vaping community, need to stop referring to this condition as vapor’s tongue: the tongue has absolutely nothing to do with this condition. Your tongue has the ability to taste five sensations: sweet, sour, bitter, salty and savory. For example, it allows to feel the sensation that blueberries are sweet, green apples are sour, tobaccos are bitter, bacon is salty and oregano is savory. But it is the olfactory sensors at the top of your nasal passage that allow you to taste blueberry as blueberry, green apple as green apple, tobacco as tobacco, bacon as bacon and oregano as oregano. Thus, when you are not able to taste your e juice it related to your olfactory senses not your tongue. I propose that we change the terminology to something more appropriate such as vapor’s fatigue. *Hops off soapbox.*

For the remainder of this pos,t I will refer to “vapor’s tongue” as vapor’s fatigue. If anyone has a better idea for the terminology, comment below and explain why! Let’s get this phenomenon renamed and stop this cycle of misunderstanding.

So what is vapor’s fatigue (vapor’s tongue)? Well, this when you are no longer able to “taste” the flavor of the e liquid you’re vaping. This is due to olfactory fatigue, also known as odor fatigue or olfactory adaptation. It is inability to distinguish or “taste” a particular odor or “flavor” after prolonged exposure.

Now that we know what vapor’s fatigue is let’s talk some reasons why it may happen, how you can overcome it and prevent it.

It is well-known amongst analog smokers that smoking dulls your sense of taste. As you make the switch from analog cigarettes to electronic cigarettes, your ability to taste will improve over time. For some, this takes as little as a week, and for others, up to six weeks. Unfortunately, sometimes with this increased sensation, your olfactory senses will be overloaded, and will shut down, causing the accursed vapor’s fatigue. Do not panic! This is completely normal, and simply your olfactory sense’s way of recuperating. This may happen several times as your sense of taste returns, and should only last for a few hours or in some cases a few days. Eventually, your body will adjust and this should no longer keep happening. In this case of vapor’s fatigue just wait it out.

*If your sense of taste is not returning after quitting smoking analog cigarettes after 4 to 6 weeks, please see your licensed medical professional.

Vaporizing will dehydrate you no matter what. Vapor absorbs any moisture in surrounding air. Your mouth contains a lot of moisture. Hence, when you vape the vapor absorbs the moisture in your mouth. If too much moisture is absorbed, it will result in dry mouth: a condition where a thin film forms on the inside of your mouth isolating your tongue and olfactory senses. Hence, you experience vapor’s fatigue. To remedy this case and/or to prevent it from happening, simply increase your water intake. Personally, this is type of vapor’s fatigue I used to suffer from the most. I am a heavy diet soda drinker, and at one point was getting dry mouth then vapor’s fatigue after any vape session that lasted more than 5 minutes. I switched to only drinking water while vaping and have had no problems since!

If you vape the same flavor all day every day, your olfactory senses can become desensitized to that particular flavor. For example say your all day everyday vape was Blueberry. You loved blueberries as a kid and Mt Baker Vapor’s Blueberry is sweet, juicy, and right on par. Then you notice after vaping blueberry daily for 6 months that the flavor is getting weaker and weaker. Then one day you can’t taste the blueberry at all, you’ve become desensitized to the flavor. Fear not! To remedy this case of vapor’s fatigue, you can take two approaches: switch to a new flavor or have a flavor rotation. I personally think that having a vaping rotation is the best method. When I first started vaping, all I vaped was Cinnamon Roll. Eventually, I couldn’t taste the flavor anymore. My olfactory senses had adapted. I then started rotating between 4 flavors and now I have no problems tasting Cinnamon Roll. You can also to take the approach of just switching flavors: i.e. switching from Cinnamon Roll to Butterscotch. I would recommend changing your flavors up significantly if choose this method. For example, if you usually vape Cinnamon Roll and can’t taste the flavor anymore, I would recommended trying to vape one of our other desert flavors like Butterscotch, or Strawberry Shortcake instead of trying to vape something similar to Cinnamon Roll, like Sticky Bun.

Still having issues with vapor’s fatigue? Well, a trick commonly employed by wine tasters and perfume mixologists is to inhale fresh coffee grounds. Coffee interacts with specific chemicals in the olfaction sensors and will in turn cause your olfactory senses to reset. So put down that e-cig, smell some coffee grounds and/or have a cup of coffee.

Fellow vapers have also reported that vaping flavors like mint, menthol and cinnamon work well as olfactory cleansers.  This will give your olfaction sensors time to reboot and you won’t be wasting flavored e juice.

Another thing to touch on briefly is allowing your e juices to fully steep. Most e-juices will taste best after 3 to 4 weeks of steeping. This allows the flavor to fully develop and mix with the nicotine. Sometimes fresh juice will have little to no taste, so it may not be you it may actually be your e juice!

Do you have any cures you have discovered for vapor’s fatigue? Any flavors that are amazing palate cleansers? Thought of a better term then “vapor’s fatigue.” Comment and share below.

Live long and vape!

Co-Founder of Mt Baker Vapor. Love e cigs and everything they have to offer. I have three kids and a wonderful wife. Also enjoy dirt bike riding, poker, and street bikes.

139 thoughts on “Vaper’s Tongue or Vaper’s Fatigue?

  1. I submit that rather than vaper’s fatigue the term should be “vapor satiation” as it seems to be a close match to “semantic satiation” (the condition where after hearing a word many times over it seems to become meaningless).

  2. Evidential my dear, I do believe you are on to something, I am a newbie vapor but have never been to keen on the vapors tongue theory. But in all actuality, taste and smell are very closely related. Smells engage the olfactory nerves in noses while your taste buds react on the tongue, and the two combine together to make up the experience. I use to laugh at my sister, who is a nurse, who said if you could smell a fart then you were actually tasting it too. Not nice to think about but anyways, I have noticed if I can smell a juice then normally means I can taste it, and If I get one that I can’t smell I usually can’t taste it either. So I believe both play a part in it. Also it goes along with peoples preference theory, peoples taste and smell sensory are different some have high taste buds and others are low. also big surprise here, not, smoking can wreak havoc on both your smell and taste senses. I also have learned that I have to rotate my juices or I will start loosing the flavor I love, I just get desensitized to it.

  3. Dill Pickle Juice!!!!
    If things take a break on you, take a mouthful of dill pickle juice and swish it around, then swallow.
    If that does not wake things up, you need to see a Dr.

  4. Vapot Fatigue sounds great and really practical but usually “dirtier” words or phrases like “crap!” Or “what the hell?” Catch on the fastest….so I think the vaping community should take some risks and go with something like “dry olfactory” or “desensitized taste” to explain this. It will really shock the world and get the point across in a way that is still socially acceptable.

  5. Thank you for the good ideas? Water, brushing teeth and a good mouth cleansing as well as nose and sinus are all good! I have found a fantastic e juice that works every time as a fantastic palate cleanse is mimosa! I love my black licorice! My #1

  6. Just like pickles, green olives work. I noticed I was getting cravings for green olives when I was having vapor fatigue symptoms. I ate a handful of green olives before I went to bed one night and the next morning I had a strong sense of taste. I’ve had this happen twice with the same results when in the past I would have had to make a drastic change in juice to get taste back.

      1. Green olives and pickled cucumbers are both “pickled” in vinegar. I’m thinking the odor cleansing properties of vinegar may be responsible.

  7. I am newbie to vaping, and had my first experience with vapor tongue/fatigue this evening. I have been using a watermelon e-juice which I love, but is a very mild flavor to begin with. Tonight, I realized I was tasting NOTHING. so I called a friend who is a old pro and asked him if there was such a thing as my e-juice losing its flavor. That is when he told me about vapor tongue/fatigue. He gave me a few suggestions, most of which are in this article. I didn’t have any coffee 🙁 or pickle juice 🙁 …BUT I did have some big red gum….chewed a piece of it and wouldnt you know, I can taste my watermelon again! thanks for this article, btw…VERY informative 🙂

  8. another thing that can contribute to vapor fatigue is vaping inside as you are smelling the flavor constantly so try to ventilate the area. also if u use atomizers over dripping will dramatically speed up the vapors fatigue because u are essentially boiling the excess liquid and overloading your senses

    1. I realize your comment is very old but wanted to reply. At first I thought you were saying we inhale it thru our nose but you are saying in a contained area. I vape thru my nose and I hit. Do you think this is a problem as well? I try some pickle juice and although the taste was better, I still cannot tell the flavor of my juice which is grape. It just tastes sweet. I had changed a coil, newbie at it. Was told I could prime my nautilus mini aspire by dripping a few drops of ejuice onto the wick. I seen online where you should prime it thru the holes on the side of the coil. So I did a combo of both. Tasted so horrible at first so I let it sit for a little while longer, did the pickle juice and it definitely tastes better but not like grape yet. Might try the coffee grounds next

  9. I have vapors fatigue and it is killing me I have tried chewing coffee beans and even ate some pickled ginger, but still have fatigue. It has been 8 days now. What can I do to get my flavor back?? Please help me. My all time favorite is honeysuckle mist but it’s the one i was using when i lost my taste so i went to cinnamint and then to gren-ade. But they all taste waxy or have a chem after taste i have them all in separate tanks and have had many ppl try them thinking it was my juice……..ITS NOT!!!!!!!! Please do i just need to wait this out? I do drink lots and lots of water i would safely say almost a gallon daily. Please I close to returning to smoking cigarettes.. I’m that upset!!!

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  11. I have been vapin moo juice for months.I am switchin over to vanilla for a while and see what happens.I have thug juice and clove plus a few more but i really love moo so i hope this switch will do the trick.Keep up the good work thx

  12. I’ve been vaping for about 6 weeks. I love eveything about vaping and the community. However, I’ve had Vapers Fatigue for about 3 days now and it’s so frustrating. I normally rotate flavors out of pure enjoyment, so I’m confident that I didn’t satiate my senses. I’ve always had a problem drinking enough pure water and have been drinking more since I started vaping as I noticed it prolonged the flavors as I vaped. I’m just at a lose. I’ve tried coffee grind sniffing and that worked a little for about 4 puffs then gone again, I’ve tried increasing my water intake dramitically and nothing has changed. I tried switching to opposing e-liquid flavors and still nothing. The experience has become boring. I’ve also noticed that I get more moisture in my nasal area now as compared to when I didn’t have vapors fatigue. I’m hoping time will bring my tasty flavors back but now I’m worried. By the way, food taste just fine…. …Just really worried about this. Vaping saved me from cigs and I don’t want to return to them but the urges have been hitting me since getting vapors fatigue…. 🙁

    1. Hey there, sorry to hear about the vaper’s tongue. I have a question for you, When you switch flavors, how drastic of flavors are you switch? What flavors do you rotate?

      Also, when you find that you are having a tasteless palette, try smelling some coffee grounds!

  13. I’m not crazy about the name vapor’s fatique.Sounds like it causes one to be tired as does dehydration caused by vaping.

    1. I totally understand. We even go back and forth between Vapor’s tongue and fatigue. I think tongue is a better name.

  14. I keep a large water bottle next to me and refill it multiple times during the day, as well as multiple cartos with a variety of juices that I switch up on throughout the day and I still get vapor desensitization. It’s an inevitable thing, I think.

    1. I’m having a hell of a time too. I drink lots of water.. even before I started vaping. After only 3-4 weeks, I can’t taste any of my juices. Only flavors that come out is cinnamon, and faint hints of my grape/melon flavors. I’ve tried all of the suggested remedies.. but my tongue is a little numb. I think I got burned a little from spitback on my cleito aspire.. guess i’ll have to wait it out..

  15. Someone else posted coffee grounds, that works really well. I do this, and it works fairly fast. Couple hours tops.

  16. It shouldn’t be called vapors fatigue, fatigue is a medical condition! And when that is connected to vaping, that will be misinterpreted, and the media will pounce on any negative side effects and say that it causes medical side effects. Just call it FLAVOR LOCKED! DON’ T attach medical condition such as fatigue to vaping!!!! Use your heads!!!! FLAVOR LOCKED!!!-

    1. Interesting idea, “Flavor Locked.” One of the problems with that idea is that the consumers and producers in the industry itself already use either “Vaper’s Tongue,” or “Vaper’s Fatigue.”

  17. I know it usually olfactory, but I do think a couple of things are worth considering: some builds give “hot drops” which do burn the tongue, and anyone who’s burnt their tongue on hot food will testify that that does affect taste. If you vape all day with a sputtery build, you’re going to get tiny burn spots that over time add up to some white noise on your tongue.

    Secondly, the tank makes a big difference. I get a lot more flavor with my Russin 91, plus more with a chimney build.

  18. The Italians have had this down pat for many many years. They serve a small scoop of lemon crushed ice (sometimes lemon/lime ice) before a meal, to reset the pallatte.

  19. I suffered vaper’s fatigue several weeks back. It only lasted a few hours, though, because I discovered something that worked almost immediately to cure the dreaded condition. First, let me provide some background.

    It was the Halo G6 kit that put me on the permanent path of vaping. When I ordered the G6 kit, I also ordered their “Menthol Sampler” pack. It included six flavors of e-juice, most of which were very good. Then there was “HX3”. At first, this flavor wasn’t bad. It wasn’t “menthol-y” enough for my taste, but it seemed OK. I tried it again about a month later, and BLECH!!! It tasted utterly horrible to me.

    Thankfully, though, I kept the remainder of the 7mL bottle containing HX3. When my bout of vaper’s fatigue hit, I thought that maybe something that tastes significantly different than my regular flavors (Halo Mystic and MBV Black Ice) might shock my “taste system” back to life.

    And I WAS RIGHT! I filled a blank G6 carto with HX3 and took a few draws from it. It was a “shock”, alright. As if I was telling my sense of taste, “You better straighten out, or this is what you’ll have to taste from now on!”

    After a few minutes, I switched back to my Mystic and Black Ice, and they were as wonderful and rich as sweet as the first time I tried them!

    I’ve only had vaper’s fatigue that one time so far, so I’m not yet able to confirm with 100% certainty that “flavor shocking” actually worked, or if it was just a coincidence that my sense of flavor might have returned when it did on its own. I keep that HX3-filled carto nearby all the time, though, in case vaper’s fatigue ever rears its ugly head again.

    I don’t know if this method would work for everyone. To try it yourself, just find a flavor that you’ve tried and hate, and keep it around so you can try “flavor shocking” the next time you get vaper’s fatigue.

    (Notice that my “shock flavor” isn’t from MBV. I’ve tried over 20 of their flavors so far, and I honestly doubt they make a flavor that I would hate.)

    1. I am sorry to hear about your vapors tongue! If you ever have issues with juices from Mt Baker Vapor let us know either here on the blog, and we can try to resolve the issue, or you can contact our customer service tea and they will be able to help you to the best of their ability! Vape on!

  20. prefer to buy my ejuices either premixed as 100%PG and the same flavor in almost pure (as possible) VG and test mix the proportions by small test quantities myself. I find that different flavors carry differnt amounts of aromatic vs tongue effects and the percentages of VG to PG can make a big difference. Higher levels of PG seem to be more likely to result in “soapy” tastes for some flavors and yet accentuate the overall palate response in others. It can be very tricky.

    I like the simplicity of the Nautilus Mini and Kanger Aero tanks. I use Vision Spinner II batteries. I find differences in air settings, battery voltage settings, the draw rate/strength, timing (when you depress the trigger and begin to draw), and where you aim the drip tip at the tongue is different for each flavor and VG/PG ratio.

    Varying any or all of these parameters can make a huge difference in how much taste and aromatic, tongue and palate/sinus response you get. Often just making some seemingly minor changes to the overall formula can be the difference between “tasting” or not.

  21. My e cig caused me to have burning mouth syndrome it burnt the nerves at the front have not used it for 6 months and still got burning mouth .

    1. This could be a slew of things happening and we are happy to figure this out. If you could be a bit more descriptive as to what is happening, that may help us understand as to what is exactly going on. Also if you would like to have your question answered in real time instead of waiting, you are more than welcome to contact our customer service team via computer or phone and they will be able to resolve this situation a bit faster.

    2. Same thing happened to me. Leaves lil rough patches on roof of mouth too. Tip of tongue tingly and burnt feeling ALL the time. This sucks!!! Has your tongue went back to normal yet?

      1. I get this exact same thing. So I think there should be “vapers tongue” when there is pain and roughness in the tongue and soft tissues of the mouth and “vapers fatigue” when you cant taste your flavors anymore.

  22. Okay idk if it’s placebo or if there is a science behind it or if someone already suggested this. Listerine! The green mouthwash stuff. I haven’t been vaping long (2 months) but when I find I just can’t taste stuff as well, I brush my teeth with a minty toothpaste and then finish with a big cup and long swish of Listerine. Bam! Flavors are back.

    For those vets that have been vaping for years and have a real problem, I suggest stop vaping for a day or two and in that time have some coffee and lemonade, brush with mint, breathe through your nostrils for a minutes while brushing, really get the mint up there and do the same for the Listerine after you empty your mouth, only breathe through your nostrils to really get that sizzling Listerine flavor through there and don’t dilute it! Swish and rinse with it straight for a minute.

    My experience is a quick brush and a quick rinse and Im back to normal all day, but you should be brushing and rinsing 2-3 times a day anyway. Oral health is important. If doing that for two days doesn’t work, try 4 days, if still not.. idk. After a week, your senses should recover, but who wants to go a whole week without vaping? But then again who wants to go a whole month or indefinitely of flavorless vaping?

    Also try that if all else fails, vape pure 50/50 with whatever strength nic, Those flavorless bottles can be bought from here MBV.

    I know the post is getting long but I’d like to add, some people vape at high temps, mostly cloud chasers I think. Consider going back to basics with low volts and cooler vapes, you might be burning things out in your tongue and nostrils. So do the two day recovery and then go back to basics, then you should be able to resume ops as normal.

  23. I have had vapors tongue for about 6 days now. my mouth is so dry while i sleep, sometimes my tongue is sticking to the upper part of my mouth when i wake up. the back of my tongue feels like its raw, like I have burnt it with horribly hot coffee. What can I do to help this. I am now smoking cigs again and thought i would never smoke another one. 🙁

    1. Drink lots of water and consider replacing your coil. With that strong of a burning sensation it’s possible it’s time for a new wick. Also, if you are only vaping one flavor, consider trying another for a short time. If you are still having difficulties, please feel free to contact our customer service for additional tips at support@mtbakervapor.com

  24. @ Melody

    Have you read the blog post and the suggestions in the comments? And have you tried any of those? Please tell us what you have tried to do about it so far and maybe we help you better.

    If you’ve tried all those things, try nicotine gum for a few days until your tongue heals. Vape at lower volts with higher nic so that you require less vape (as fun as it is.)

  25. My vapor fatigue is in my mouth, not up my nose. I suggest those with nose problems should stop snorting it. Should fix the problem. As for me, Rainbow Sherbet does the job.

  26. Its amazing how wonderfully helpful this site and customers are! I have quiet a few vaping shops around me and none of them have ever gave this as a reason for my juice not as strong as usual…I always get “well maybe you need to try this tank but you’re going to need this battery with it…” blah blah blah just trying to sale me things I don’t want or need.

  27. I have a question that i hope some one can answer for me. Im relatively new to vaping but have noticed that some flavors make me cough ( like butterscotch) love the flavor, but why is this??

  28. I call it “vape blind” when I can’t smell or taste the vape anymore. When it happens, I usually switch to a completely opposite type flavor. If I’m vaping something sweet or chocolaty, I’ll switch to a citrus flavor and vice versa. I drink a lot of a popular citrusy soda that helps as well 🙂

  29. I was born without a sense of smell. I rely on my tongue for taste in everything. I have been vaping everyday for over 3 years, and now I can no longer taste anything when I vape! I have tried switching flavors, doesn’t help when i drink coffee or citrus… every flavor I try, tastes grey to me. I smoked menthol for over a year and i noticed eventually that there was no taste. I tried swithing flavors, no taste there either. Any suggestions?

    1. The best thing you could do at that point is to switch to a completely different flavor profile. For instance, if you’re vaping menthol, switch to a coffee flavor or something else in a completely different flavor profile.

  30. great topic as a new be to vapeing in the short time i have learned and tried a lot of different things and some times that is the start of my problem my first bottle of juice was M B V tobacco 20/80 18 with a small tank and battery will went 100 %vape no cigs from first day no more 3 packs a day .one day tried different things was not getting what i thought i should for flavor so go up on pg right now 50/50 nic 24 as much as 12 mi of juice not M B V a day no wonder i could not taste any thing do to batteries going down bought tesla mod and nautilus mini bvc got some moo juice to go with it 50/50 18 well did not care for it my self so back to M B V vanilla tobacco 20/80 18 i found my sweet spot at 11. 5 watts and all sorts of flavor and vaping 6 mi a day i drink water brush teeth and snort coffee eat pickles i also have a kanger evod that i use a few times a day has 50/50 24 peach to give me a nicotine fix i fill it ever 2 or three days i am real funny about putting any thing in my nautilus but 20/80 M B V or it goes to popping and takes a bit to get it working top shelf again just like my kanger dose not like 20/80 and my tongue dose not like vaping 12 mi a day i dont care what you call it but its real and i am glade i found a way around it for me

  31. I’ve found that simply rotating flavors, as was mentioned in the OP, does the trick for me. I’m always stocked on at least three juice flavors to help with this.

    I would also like to recommend vaper’s nose as the term to use, since that’s what’s being affected here. 🙂 Although it does tend to lead to an image of runny noses…so maybe not. How about Vaper’s Numb Proboscis.

  32. Actually I’m drinking a nice stout beer right now and that seems to do the trick too. Not very useful prior to driving, working, thinking and other more complicated tasks, though.

    1. Ahh strong IPA’s always do it for me since I vape the fruity stuff. I find my juices taste best while having a beer 🙂

  33. hello guys, I’m vaping almost 4 months now.. I’m using a flavour called malibu around 6mg of nicotine and some time i use 12mg before a few hour I notice something on the taste, basically the taste become like a burnt rubber.. I thought that the problem is coil so, I replace the coil with a new one.. I left the atomizer for 5-10 min so coil to be very wet and then I try to vape agin.. the taste was exactly the same…. I don’t think that I have become accustomed to the taste since what I taste is not a taste or not a taste anyway it’s a dirt… I have 2 other atomizers (extra), so I try one of them with different taste and the taste is nice…Is there a possibility that the liquid get old ? :p I’m I have 5 ml of tank and I almost need 3-4 ml per day.. so each time that the tank goes under 2 ml I refill the tank.. I didn’t use malibu in my extra atomizer because is the only taste that I can vape and I don’t want to waste it, if you have any ideas of what’s going on I will be glad if you can share with me some useful information Thank you

  34. I had Vaper tongue last week and read in google that our tongue have to be brushed using tongue brush… So I bought one and start brushing my tongue and what an amazing result!! I can taste any liquid just like when I vaping for the first time…!

  35. I find having even slightly different similar flavors makes a world of difference, if you like a combination flavor, try just one one of those in the combination, then switch back

  36. Thanks for all the insight. I just came down with my first case of fatigue. My taste is “burnt rubber” which I googled and found this blog. I refill my mistic carts with 2.4 Haus Washington Red. Being a gunie pig I’ll try a few of your suggestions and report back. Again thanks.

  37. A lot of people have mentioned things like pickles, salted nuts, etc.; ANYTHING salty will work. I came across this after eating a friend’s overly salted stir fry. Then I tried just putting a little salt on my tongue, and it was like magic.

    Brushing my tongue and whole mouth helps a bit; coffee grinds never did anything for me.

  38. I’ve just started vaping and received a zample box in the mail. They’re all different flavours. Great. I had a basic aspire clearomiser and battery and had some issues with burnt coils. So I changed to a nautilus mini and variable battery. And still my ejuices all taste the same!!! I have yet to find one flavour that I actually enjoy enough to keep vaping! I’m so sad as reviews for all the flavours I have are really good!! Need some serious help!

    1. It can be challenging finding that happy place with juice. My only advice would be to keep scrounging vendors, change up your blend and nicotine level, and experiment with new hardware. I had a similar problem until I switched to the Subtank and lowered my nicotine strength to 3. Whatever you decide, we’re in your corner!

  39. @Sam

    Maybe you are moving too fast. Every Clearo that I’ve used cotton or other has a ‘break-in’ period of about 10-20 vapes where it tastes like burnt paper or nothing but cotton. unfortunately there is no way around it. IDK if that is your problem, but maybe you have to keep vaping to get past it. That or you coil is burning too hot. Oh and Nic strength is a big one, Tim is right, try 3 or Zero nic juices, if you can’t properly taste a juice at ZeroNic then there IS a serious problem. Visit e-cigarette-forum(dot)com for the smartest and friendliest community of vapor chasers.

    1. I would agree that temperature matters, if it’s burning too hot it will have that nasty burnt flavor. I’ve never had an issue with having to vape past an initial unpleasant flavor though. Although I prime all my wicks by dripping e-juice directly into them. The Mt Baker Vapor forum is pretty great too by the way. 🙂

  40. Great forum! I am more of a flavor chaser myself, and love my Nautilus tanks. I find a regular flavor rotation to be helpful, and usually vape 2 or 3 different flavors every day. I only vape East Coast Tobacco around my wife, who is ultra-sensitive to smells and this seems to be the only one that she can’t really detect. Other times I vape something fruity like Afternoon Delight, and change it up with something like a Cherry/Hot Cinnamon mix. It really seems to keep my taste buds on their toes…

  41. This may be slightly tangential to “vaper’s tongue”, so I’ll call it vaper’s mouth. Years before vaping happened, my dentist dragged out his little mirrors and had me look at several red lesions inside my mouth. He said they were pre-cancerous and that I should run, not walk to the store and buy cigarettes to replace the pipe I smoked. His analysis was that the hot sugar vapor was causing the lesions. Since I started vaping I’ve noticed the same mouth feel as pipe smoking (and still like it). With no scientific information to support it, my guess is that if you’re vaping at high temperatures with a sweet e-liquid, you might be over heating your tongue and olfactory sensors. Use caution and a mirror.

  42. Just started to experience this slightly the other day. Every couple of hits would taste kind of burntish with less and less taste, than all of a sudden today BOOM all gone just a taste of bland vapor. I’ve been vaping heavy on Blueprint Vapors “A-Train” and spent about 15 dollars total on new coils thinking that was the problem. Spent some time trying a couple of tricks I read up on here and some other sites, as well as went and picked up a new bottle of juice from a local shop, and thank God, I can taste again! Awesome article with great info!!!!

  43. All is true. Took the words right out of my vape. My only issue is the new so called Japanese organic cotton aspire claims to use now…the old (ceramic I think ) coils worked fine and now this organic cease is killing my throat. Do I need to just hack it up for a while to get used to it ? I vape about 10ml a day, 6nicotine,aspire Atlantis with JELLYFISH LOTUS set at 15watts, three different juice I switch up often…beard,junkie juice and Mitsubishi (ichigo)

  44. My solution is using an RDA and keeping seven or eight flavors I like, and rotating throughout the day. Being able to drip a different flavor whenever I wanted to gives me a big advantage over using a tank and coming down with this vapor fatigue.

  45. i only start vaping for few days, i just bought CUTTWOOD sugar bear 6mg but i cant feel the taste… do u think i need to upgrade to 9 mg ?does it helps ?

  46. i have a spinner 2 and have the “no flavor” problem sometimes
    would it do me any good to go up to something where i make my own wicks instead of having to CONSTANTLY buy coils?
    or do they all have to have a coil of some kind?
    thanks!

    1. I might recommend trying some variety in your flavoring, nicotine level, and blend before changing up your hardware. If that doesn’t help, you could try the Subox Mini, which carries the flavor well.

  47. I’m new to vaping, been St it a week with all most no cigarettes. But. Last night all flavors tasted burnt or idk just like. Dry smoke, now. And then I’d taste a little on the side of my toulng I got woried and brushed the shit out of my toulng lol it did not work woke up today and still bad taste so I looked it. Up and it has brought me here I’m going to try some of these tricks this has been helpful

  48. Hi Everyone

    Been Vaping for 2 months now and 2 weeks ago got a Sigelei 75w with Aspire Atlantis V2. i started vaping Ruthless EZ DUZ IT and absolutely love it. Friday i had a load of flavours turn up some from Trip Hammer and some from BestCigLiquids so i put the new flavour in and christ it tasted awful just had this nasty taste back of me throat was sore as well btw it the same nicotine strength. i tried a different and thought it was my coil so changed it. had some friends over and they tried and said thats fine and were saying how good there liquids were so had few puffs but couldn’t taste it then i changed back to my favourite liquid and could on taste it slightly i don’t know what is going on. I’m assuming it vapour Fatigue and tried all the tricks but nothing works i can taste all my food and drinks normally though its just vaping i cant taste and horrible throat hit from 6mg nicotine normally on me fav at that i have no throat hit at all.

    Has anyone got any insight as to what is wrong??

    Thank you in advance

    1. There could be a few things going on here. First of all if you are using sub-ohm coils in the Atlantis try lowering your nic level to 3mg. I was on 6mg for awhile and eventually had to scale down to 3 because it just hurt my throat that much. Also, maybe try adjusting your wattage? And be sure you’re drinking plenty of water and try cleansing your pallet with something like coffee or mouthwash.

  49. You guys are great! I appreciate your blog, forums, contests and all the other ways you make my newest hobby fun! Thanks for the info on vapor’s fatigue! I’ve noticed the problem but thankfully it goes away by morning….As long as I go to sleep that is! Thanks again!

  50. I lost my “tongue” to blueberry cheesecake and cannot have any desserty flavors after that and it pisses me off but fruity flavors are fine what can i do about this i spent too much money on coils and juices assuming i burnt my coils!!

  51. I think I finally found the cure for vape mouth. Look up Pink Himalayan salt and “sole”. It’s distilled water saturated with Himalayan salt. I take 1 TBS and use it like mouthwash….flavor back. I also stopped using alcohol based mouthwash like Listerine.

  52. Ok, so… new to the vape scene and the latest victim of vaper’s fatigue! Having read the entire post, I just pulled my head out of the coffee jar, swished a generous mouthful of lime juice (whoa!), gargled with dill pickle juice, gobbled down a dozen olives, scraped my tongue and guzzled 6 quarts of water! I followed up with a lesion check and nostril trimming for good measure, all while eating salted nuts and praying to the Vaper God. I’ll be cleaning my tank tonite, reloading with “Ruthless E Z DUZ IT”, replacing my coil and in the morning I’ll begin my new rotation schedule! Wish me luck.. and thanks for all your help!! I’m gonna beat this thing!!

  53. Couldn’t focus on the content.. here’s a corrected version. :

    Let us be frank and talk about “vapor’s tongue.”

    First and foremost let me rant for just a moment. *Grabs a soapbox and takes a long vape of Butterscotch.* We the vaping community need to stop referring to this condition as vapor’s tongue: the tongue has absolutely nothing to do with this condition. Your tongue can taste five sensations: sweet, sour, bitter, salty and savory. For example, it allows to feel the sensation that blueberries are sweet, green apples are sour, tobaccos are bitter, bacon is salty, and oregano is savory. But it is the olfactory sensors at the top of your nasal passage that allow you to taste blueberry as blueberry, green apple as green apple, tobacco as tobacco, bacon as bacon and oregano as oregano. Thus, when you are not able to taste your e-juice it related to your olfactory senses, not your tongue. I propose that we change the terminology to something more appropriate such as vapor’s fatigue. *Hops off soapbox.*

    For, the remainder of this post I will refer to “vapor’s tongue” as vapor’s fatigue. If anyone has a better idea for the terminology comment below and explain why! Let’s get this phenomenon renamed and stop this cycle of misunderstanding.

    So what is vapor’s fatigue (vapor’s tongue)? Well, this when you are no longer able to “taste” the flavor of the e-juice you’re vaping. This is due to olfactory fatigue, also known as odor fatigue or olfactory adaptation. It is an inability to distinguish or “taste” a particular odor or “flavor” after prolonged exposure.

    Now that we know what vapor’s fatigue is let’s talk some reasons why it may happen, how you can overcome it and prevent it.

    It is well amongst analog smokers that smoking dulls your sense of taste. As you make the switch from analog cigarettes to electronic cigarettes your ability to taste will improve over time. For some this takes as little as a week and for others up to 6 weeks. Unfortunately, sometimes with this increased sensation your olfactory senses will be overloaded and shut down causing the cursed vapor’s fatigue. Do not panic this is completely normal and simply your olfactory senses’ way of recuperating. This may happen several times as your sense of taste returns and should only last for a few hours or in some cases a few days. Eventually, your body will adjust, and this should no longer keep happening. In the event of vapor’s fatigue just wait it out.

    *If your sense of taste is not returning after quitting smoking analog cigarettes after 4 to 6 weeks please see your licensed medical professional.

    Vaporizing will dehydrate you no matter what. Vapor absorbs any moisture in surrounding air. Your mouth contains a lot of moisture. Hence, when you vape the vapor absorbs the moisture in your mouth. If too much moisture is absorbed it will result in dry mouth: a condition where a thin film forms on the inside of your mouth, isolating your tongue and olfactory senses. Hence, you experience vapor’s fatigue. To remedy this case and to prevent it from happening simply increase your water intake. Personally, this is a type of vapor’s fatigue I used to suffer from the most. I am a heavy diet soda drinker and at one point was getting dry mouth then vapor’s fatigue after any vape session that lasted more than 5 minutes. I switched to only drinking water while vaping and have had no problems since!

    If you vape the same flavor all day every day, your olfactory senses can become desensitized to that particular flavor. For example, say your all day everyday vape was blueberry. You loved blueberries as a kid, and MBV’s blueberry is sweet, juicy and right on par. Then you notice after vaping blueberry daily for 6 months that the flavor is getting weaker and weaker. Then one day you can’t taste the blueberry at all, you’ve become desensitized to the flavor. Fear not, to remedy this case of vapor’s fatigue you can take two approaches: switch to a new flavor or have a flavor rotation. I think that having a vaping rotation is the best method. When I first started vaping all I vaped was Cinnamon Roll. Eventually, I couldn’t taste the flavor anymore. My olfactory senses had adapted. I then started rotating between 4 flavors, and now I have no problems tasting Cinnamon Roll. You can also to take the approach of just switching flavors: i.e. changing from Cinnamon Roll to Butterscotch. I would recommend changing your flavors up significantly if choose this method. For example, if you usually vape Cinnamon Roll and can’t taste the flavor anymore I would recommend trying to vape one of our other dessert flavors like Butterscotch or Strawberry Shortcake instead of an attempt to vape something similar to Cinnamon Roll like Sticky Bun.

    Still having issues with vapor’s fatigue? Well, a trick commonly employed by wine tasters and perfume mixologists is to inhale fresh coffee grounds. Coffee interacts with specific chemicals in the olfaction sensors and will in turn cause your olfactory senses to reset. So put down that e-cig, smell some coffee grounds and have a cup of coffee.

    Fellow vapers have also reported that vaping flavors like mint, menthol and cinnamon work well as olfactory cleansers. You can also keep a bottle of unflavored e-juice to vape when experiencing fatigue. This will give your olfaction sensors time to reboot, and you won’t be wasting flavored e-juice.

    Another thing to touch on briefly is allowing your e-juices to steep fully. Most e-juices will taste best after 3 to 4 weeks of steeping. This allows the flavor to fully develop and mix with the nicotine. Sometimes fresh juice will have little to no taste, so it may not be you it may be your e juice!

    If you have tried all the above the remedies and you are still suffering from vapor’s fatigue it may not hurt to think about either adding extra flavor shots and changing your blend. Remember that PG carries the flavor and VG dampens it. Sometimes a small change like adding an extra flavor shot or changing from 50% PG/50 % VG blend to a 65% PG/35% VG blend can make quite a difference.

    Do you have any cures you have discovered for vapor’s fatigue? Any flavors that are amazing palate cleansers? Have you thought of a better term then “vapor’s fatigue.” Comment and share below.

    Live, long and vape!

    1. Wow, thanks for the lovely read. You do provide a lot of great insights here. Thanks for sharing. We hope this blog and your comment will help clear up any issues that may exist for vapers everywhere concerning this matter of vapers tongue or vapers fatigue.

  54. agree with Benjamin’s remarks ‘olfactory senses, not your tongue’,,, but for good measure i gargled with hot heavy salt water,, and took a hot shower. this help to drain my sinus area and make a serious improvement on the taste/lack of taste problems i had. i also took some sinus meds. (the sinus approach made sense to me from my history of sinus and allergy problems as a child long before a surgery for a deviated septum)..anyway,, the hot salt gargle with the hot shower helped to liquify anything ‘stuck in me’ and i coughed up/blew out most of it. i figured i was due that since in have never had any coughing with vaping after 35 years of smoking.,,, and also seriously increased my water intake too. as for a name,,,,,, i kind of refer to it as ‘vapers palate’–good luck to everyone 🙂

    1. Coffee, Tea, Flavored Water, switching to a super citrus flavor works for me. There are many options that work for someone and not for someone else.

    2. Personally, I don’t care much what the term for this is. After reading the article, I’d agree that “vapor’s fatigue” better describes the condition than “vapor’s tongue”. I was just glad to find information about it. I’d never heard of it, had only smoked traditional cigarettes for about two years, and switched completely to vaping with a 2-3 week overlap period. I’ve been vaping for about 6-8 months and have never heard of this or experienced it. Honestly, it was kind of terrifying and I’m glad this page with the info and plenty of replies popped up near the top of my search. I still can’t taste the flavor, but finding out that it’s not permanent was relieving. Since I started typing this, I’ve had a few moments to let the terms sink in. “Vapor’s tongue”, which seems to be mostly inaccurate, probably isn’t the best term for it. But “vapor’s fatigue” sounds a little more frightening than I initially thought. Personally, to me, it sounds more like a chronic condition that will never go away completely (like having a “bad back” that goes out on occasion for the remainder of your life. Or a skin condition of some sort that may flare up or hardly be noticeable, but it’s still there. I like the idea that this “condition I’m experiencing of not being able to taste my vape” is temporary and that once it’s gone, it’s gone (like a scab). “Vapor’s fatigue” sounds like it’s some kind of spectrum that I’ll be dancing along for the rest of my life (or foreseeable vaping future anyway). But maybe that’s just the reality of it. I haven’t read enough or experienced it all to know. Anyway, thanks for the information and doing what you can to clarify the terminology and the condition. (I really hope this goes away (soon) and doesn’t return. I’ll drink more water, I promise!!!)

  55. I have it too and its because I have been vaping one e juice for a week or so.. Rotating e juice flavours sounds like the right fix. Thanks for the post.

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