Ownlife Vapor Episode 91: Game Changer

The Deeming Regulations have gone into effect. These strict laws have forced our hand an a lot of issues, including age verification, changes in our menu, and no more free stuff. Listen to today’s podcast to hear how these regulations change the game for you, the loyal MBV fan!



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Tim Mechling

Tim is Mt Baker Vapor's resident creative weirdo. He writes, composes music, draws, designs, produces podcasts, investigates, and blows the trumpet for the Common Man.

  • Shane says:

    What has this world come too. 🙁

  • Beth says:

    no more free stuff?! isn’t that basically censoring an idea or a company’s “branding” at best?! i have a big problem with that … not only because i enjoy the free bottles (i have found MANY favourites i never would have tried otherwise … which only brings more business to mt. baker vapor!) but ideologically … well, there’s nothing good i can say about that. i will have to listen to the podcast and see if it answers all my questions, but i’d be interested to know what the “rationale” is behind not being able to give away samples to consenting adults to encourage business. that’s like telling a company “sorry, you can’t give away t-shirts to encourage business.” that seems illegal to me in so many ways. i’m assuming you guys have lawyers on this??

  • Ralph Potter III says:

    I knew the free stuff would end because of way back with the Joe Camel issues. I remember when nascar was the Winston Cup and they would give away cartons of cigs. I love Mt Baker Vapor not sure what it is but same flavors to me taste better than others I have found in shops. My BYOJ flavor is what I vape daily and never get tired of it like some commercial brands I would like at first but the 2nd bottle seemed to lose its flavor like the first potatoe chip tastes great but 10 chips in and its blahhhh. I do think there should be some types of testing and regulations but what the FDA is doing should be considered rape. 500k to a million? And if you have any juice or mod from 2007 that works or taste good then let me know because I will buy from them all day long.

  • Shannon Rascoe says:

    No matter what FDA says y’all have great customer service and my husband and I will stick with y’all

  • Samantha Bowers says:

    So no more free juice? Even nicotine free?

  • Crystal says:

    ? Well, wish there was a way around all that. Hey – “private trial club” that is just $1 a year to join?!?! ??

    • Josh Hanna says:

      That is a good idea! The only issue is we have to have a transaction for every piece of hardware. I will bring this up and see if the club will work with the regulations!

  • Max Babb says:

    What about an “optional” $.01 fee for a “tester”

  • Justin says:

    No more free stuff that sux you should have a BIG old sale 4 the people that are jumpin all the hoops

  • Dusty says:

    To get around the free stuff, one could see if mtbakervapor could have it where using the 150ml or the 300ml so that one could pick 5/30 or 10/30 in different flavor’s so one is able to try all the ones they carry.

  • Tracy Giddings says:

    I am a bit confused. On the 9th I stopped at an e-juice bar in Iowa that was able to mix whatever flavors I wanted right there. What is the difference between you and them having to have all the flavors checked? They did still check my ID even though I am 55. I was only interested in 6 & 3 mg so I don’t know a lot about the higher nic levels and I was interested in the 60ml bottles. As far as tasting, they couldn’t give free stuff anymore, so they charge $.25 to taste test for the day. Can you give me any insight into why they can still mix flavors at a brick-and-mortar in Iowa?

    • Josh Hanna says:

      From what I understand, they are not allowed to. I am not a lawyer, though.

      • Ralph Potter III says:

        Local shop in NC was just informed they could not even have testers/samples. Only way around it have a set up like Avail vapor if anyone goes there. I tried them one time but they have pen type vapes attached to cords. Not much flavor or vape production for me.

  • Michele says:

    PA is about to hit us with a 40% tax on e-juice. Including online purchases. Can you please market your juice as essential oil so I don’t have to pay the tax. Stocking now cause I don’t know what I’m going to do when Oct 1st rolls around. We will have to pay on tax return. If caught not paying tax for online juice purchases you could get jail time. Tired of the gov’t taxing me to death. Hope someone finds a solution to all this bullshit!

    How would the state of PA even know I purchase juice from you?

  • Steve says:

    Well, except these are NOT laws…they are regulations. Laws are passed by Congress not a bunch of appointed bureaucrats doing big tobacco bidding. However, it is really disappointing MBV decided to go above and beyond what the regulations call for in age verification. Lost my $1000 a year in business especially after continuing to blame it on the regulations when it is not the FDA that made it so complicated…it was MBV.

    • Suzannah says:

      It takes all of 60 seconds to complete the age verification protocol now in place at MBV. Yea, I complained (to myself) the first time I had to verify my age with my order; then told (myself) to “get over it”!!
      MBV wants to stay in business and I applaud them for their efforts to cover all the bases.

  • William says:

    I was just looking on the site. The 2 flavors I vape don’t show anything, but 15ml and 30ml. What happened in purchasing 5 x 30ml and 10 x 30ml? As for the freebie juice that was given with every order, why not just charge 10 cents for it? I’m sure 99% MBV customers would buy them.

    • Josh Hanna says:

      The bulk packs were messing up our inventory system. We are working to get that fixed but do not have a date or anything else on it. The suggestion for the freebie is great! I am passing all of these suggestions on to the higher managers to see what we can do.

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  • John says:

    I new this stuff was happening but I was not keeping up with it because I thought we had more representation out there, it appears not. I can tell you we did some of damage to ourselves by using certain terminologies to describe and market vaping, “Electronic Cigarettes, E-Cigs, etc, anything similar didn’t help our cause. All descriptions that make people think of smoking, cigarettes, tobacco anything of that nature need to go away. I’m a Respiratory therapist by trade and many health care professionals will be on the side of the FDA. The powers that be don’t care about the “E” in-front of Cigarettes. I was a 30 year smoker 3 years ago when I started vaping and never looked back.

    • Ted Marple says:

      Very insightful and thank you for sharing. I think you are correct. There is heavy history and negativity associated with anything associated with “cigarettes” and it was probably a tactical error on the industries part for linking to that name when in fact it is not. I think the industry was trying to make the logical link between smoking and vaping to inform smokers that there was a new alternative on the market and making it look “cigarette-ish” early on has proved to be a mistake long-term. I see MANY posts daily that echo your sentiments both in terms of industry and benefits. As the fight unfolds it will be interesting to see if industry attempts to distance itself from its market entry position. Congratulations for getting off tobacco. I’d be interested in hearing your experience with getting away from cigarettes and your feelings from that date.

  • Sakda Detsouvanh says:

    Y does the FDA gotta suckass n be this way

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